Roland Barthes,
"The Third Meaning"
"[The
Third Meaning] outplays meaning. A new--rare--practice
affirmed against a majority practice (that of signification), obtuse meaning
appears necessarily as a luxury, an expenditure with no exchange. This luxury
does not yet belong to today's politics but nevertheless already
to tomorrow's." (62-63)
"On the one hand, it [the third meaning] cannot be conflated with the simple existence of the scene, it exceeds the copy of the refential motif, it compels an interrogative reading . . ." (53)
"The obtuse meaning is not in the language system (even that of symbols). Take away the obtuse meaning and communication and signification still remain, still circulate, still come through . . ." (60)
"Everything
that can be said about Ivan or Potemkin can be said of
a written text (entitled Ivan the Terrible or Battleship Potemkin)
except this, the obtuse meaning." (64-65)
" . . . the
obtuse meaning is not situated structurally, a semantologist would not agree
as to its objective existence . . ." (60)
"The filmic, then, lies precisely here, in that region where articulated language is no longer more than approximative and where another language begins . . ." (65)
From
Barthes, "The Third Meaning":
"
. . . the obtuse meaning appears to extend outside culture, knowledge, information;
analytically, it has something derisory about it: opening out into the infinity
of language . . . it belongs to the family of pun, buffoonery, useless
expenditure." (55)
From 32 Short Films About Glenn Gould:
"My
own personal philosophy of interviewing . . . is that the most illuminating
disclosures usually derive from areas only indirectly
related to the interviewee's line of work."
From Barthes,
"The Third Meaning":
"It
is clear that the obtuse meaning is the epitome of a counter-narrative; disseminated,
reversible, set to its own temporality, it inevitably determines (if
one follows it) a quite different analytical segmentation to that in
shots, sequences and syntagms (technical or narrative) -- an extraordinary segmentation:
counter-logical and yet 'true.'" (63)
"Imagine following not Euphrosyne's schemings, nor even the character (as diegetic entity or symbolic figure), nor even, again, the face of the Wicked Mother, but merely, in this face, this attitude, this black veil, the heavy, ugly flatness-you will then have a different time-scale, neither diegetic nor oneiric, a different film." (63)
From Barthes,
"The Third Meaning":
"I
believe that the obtuse meaning carries a certain emotion.
. . it is an emotion which simply designates what one
loves, what one wants to defend: an emotion-value,
an evaluation." (59)\
Gould #2: "And never between shall they meet?"
Gould #1: "No, they'll make contact but on a much more meaningful level."
Gould #2: Well, Mr. Gould, I'm well aware that this sort of idealistic 'role swapping' has a certain rhetorical flourish, the 'creative audience' concept . . .
From Barthes,
"The Third Meaning":
"Obtuse
meanings are to be found not everywhere . . . but somewhere: in
other authors of films (perhaps), in a certain manner of reading
'life' and so 'reality' itself . . ." (60)