A
System Identification Example - 1.1
Al
Dente's Oven
General
Shape of the Response
Here we want to look at the assumption that the system is a first order
linear system. Here's Al's data along with some data we generated
using a theoretical solution that was based on the assumption that the
system was a first order linear system. We started the theoretical
solution at 32, and used 68 as the final value, and the time constant was
30 seconds. It's a reasonable match isn't it? Click on your
response below. If you have any question about the starting point,
you should click here. The
linear model here assumes that we are dealing with temperature rise above
ambient.

Enter Your Answer:
The way the transient starts is important. If the system were second
order, with two time constants, then you could have the kind of curve shown
in the blue plot below. The interesting feature of the plot is that
the response doesn't start immediately, but has zero slope initially, and
only after a little while does it start to turn upward.

The expression for the blue curve is given below. Makes you eager
to get to second order systems, right?
Temp(t) = 32 + 26*(1-e-t/t)
+ 10*(1-e-t/.25t)
Here's the same expression plotted on a
different time scale.

Notice how the second order response -
with 2 real poles - starts out more slowly. In fact, the initial
slope is zero. As the "quick" time constant dies out, the response
approaches the kind of approach found in first order linear systems.
The question that you need to answer is this.
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How do you know that
you don't have this kind of behavior? If you have this type of behavior,
then the system is second order. If the slope changes instantaneously,
you probably have a first order system.
The answer is not simple.
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One thing you can
- and should - do is to be sure that you take enough data that you can
see the first part of the transient.
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Secondly, you need
to know what kind of model will suffice. If you need to make very
detailed predictions, then you need to take "dense" data near the start
of the transient. Otherwise, the kind of data plotted above will
suffice. Be clear about that. You need to make sure that your
model is adequate for the job intended. Don't do more than is necessarsy
- and engineers always want to do more than necessary. However, be
sure that you do enough. You must make the judgement and you need
to call it correctly, so you need to understand how the model will be used.
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